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+# Summary
+
+TLDR: ECC profits directly from their own users lack of privacy.
+
+    The company behind Zcash, Electric Coin Company, works directly with Law Enforcement and blockchain analysis companies, whose largest customers are Law Enforcement Organizations (LEOs).
+    This is the Military-Industrial-Surveillance complex, where ECC directly profits from their users lack of privacy
+    The Hush community finds this to be an egregious conflict-of-interest
+    What follows are important summaries and quotes from this video:
+
+https://www.bitchute.com/video/PWXU7D4VV0lB/
+
+    The video was removed from YouTube and then uncensored by the Monero community
+
+    The companies actually make fun of Zcash optional privacy, but say if people use the tech, they can't track it.
+
+    It shows that ECC profits directly from their own users lack of privacy.
+
+    0:43:45
+
+Ciphertrace and other companies are starting to work with Zcash team at Electric Coin Company on integration
+of tools for that blockchain.
+
+-- Dave Jevans, CEO of Ciphertrace
+
+    1:00:00 - Summary of Bitcoin ATM usage: stolen CC's, darknet markets, overseas remittance to family members
+    1:03:24 - Mixers can be wiretapped, Denial-of-Service'd and have code errors, not as good as privacy coins.
+    1:03:55 - Custody and exit fraud risk of "mixers" are inferior to protocol level privacy. Privacy coins have less risk of theft, almost none
+    1:04 -
+
+We also have projects that are funded by Law Enforcement Organizations,
+to work on Monero and Zcash tools and support, so there is good interest
+in the research funding side, as well as the investigation side.
+
+``` - Dave Jevans, CEO of Ciphertrace 
+
+The other thing, we are in touch with some communities and I would say, for example, we are getting a lot of helpful attitude from the Zcash Community, they were able to explain to us how exactly coin anonymization feature worked. Of course, if you have a suspect that knows what he is doing, he is not making stupid mistakes, their community is, of course, not in a position to help.
+
+-- ChainAnalysis
+
+
+* 1:04:20 - What should Law Enforcement Organizations do?
+* 1:05:00 - What Should Law Enforcement Do When They See A Privacy Coin?
+  * Very few options, forensics tools don't help. Monero + Tor is a dead end.
+  * Seizing phones is the easiest way to de-anonymize privacy coins!
+* 1:06:00 - Telling Law Enforcement to search for privacy coin wallets, not just Bitcoin wallets, on seized phones.
+            Wallets can be imported into surveillance software.
+
+
+Originally from https://gist.github.com/leto/c351124c937e1516e9ac37e86738b0b2 
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